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Or smokin' something.
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I don't smoke.
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Burlyman wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:51 am I don't smoke.
Smoke is flat
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Isaac wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:38 pm
Burlyman wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:51 am I don't smoke.
Smoke is flat
Your jokes are flat. I can easily debunk everything you all said here, but you'll just act like nothing was proven and ridicule the whole thing and use ad-hominem arguments directed towards me. Just say the word while being serious, and respectful, and I'll refute everything you all said, including what Vander or whichever "who's who" of Descent 3 said there's no aether. Hopefully roid won't turn it into a flame war.
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You've said that you can do a lot of things "easily," so maybe it's time to put up or shut up.
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Probably the easiest way to see the curvature of the earth:

https://flatearth.ws/pontchartrain
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Top Gun wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:33 pm You've said that you can do a lot of things "easily," so maybe it's time to put up or shut up.
Neo keeps referencing debunked hypotheses. You know the drill... If your experiment proves you wrong, just disregard the results and try something different.

Albert Einstein's definition of insanity.

Faith does not acknowledge facts, and true believers will never change their mind. Which is why I snipe rather than participate.

I did like playing Descent with Neo though.
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Flatlander wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:15 am Probably the easiest way to see the curvature of the earth:

https://flatearth.ws/pontchartrain
That would require that flat earthers actually do math, which is something completely unreasonable to expect from them.
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Darth Wang wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:48 pm
Flatlander wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:15 am Probably the easiest way to see the curvature of the earth:

https://flatearth.ws/pontchartrain
That would require that flat earthers actually do math, which is something completely unreasonable to expect from them.
They'd just claim it was refraction anyway. LOL
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Flat Earthers: Dumber Than Advertised

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Burlyman wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:24 pm
Isaac wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:38 pm
Burlyman wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:51 am I don't smoke.
Smoke is flat
Your jokes are flat. I can easily debunk everything you all said here, but you'll just act like nothing was proven and ridicule the whole thing and use ad-hominem arguments directed towards me. Just say the word while being serious, and respectful, and I'll refute everything you all said, including what Vander or whichever "who's who" of Descent 3 said there's no aether. Hopefully roid won't turn it into a flame war.
What jokes? You don't believe in flat moon? You believe in ball-moon propaganda? I dare you to disprove ball-moon, which you have been too scared to do.
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Isaac I don’t believe in your crazy flat moon conspiracy theory. :)
I liked playing D3 with Bunyip except when he would try to compare and contrast our skill levels. I like friendly matches, not grudge matches like what people who hated me wanted…. I’m not saying Bunyip did this but other people did.
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Burlyman wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:06 pm Isaac I don’t believe in your crazy flat moon conspiracy theory. :)
I thought you said you could debunk it
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Too many insults.
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Burlyman wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:06 pm Isaac I don’t believe in your crazy flat moon conspiracy theory. :)
I liked playing D3 with Bunyip except when he would try to compare and contrast our skill levels. I like friendly matches, not grudge matches like what people who hated me wanted…. I’m not saying Bunyip did this but other people did.
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Burlyman wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:01 am Too many insults.
When did I insult you? Point to one insult I aimed at you! In fact, you insulted me! You told me you'd easily debunk my flat moon and then you called it crazy. Those are insults, by you.

But you're just going to throw accusations at me, which I think is wrong. Clearly ball-moon propagandists can't handle my evidence.
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There is another way to prove the moon is round.

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TigerRaptor wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:51 pm There is another way to prove the moon is round.
https://i.postimg.cc/qv6Skb6M/Screensho ... 154910.png
At least it proves no men have ever landed on the moon.
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You guys don’t even know (for pretend :P) why that’s referred to as a moon.

It wasn’t you with the insults, Isaac.

I can debunk globe earth but not flat moon. :)
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Flatlander where are the results of your laser test, since you think you’re so smart? Stephen Hawking did a fake one just before he died.
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Burlyman wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:17 am Flatlander where are the results of your laser test, since you think you’re so smart? Stephen Hawking did a fake one just before he died.
Where is yours? I don't give a flying ★■◆● what shape the earth is. It has no bearing on my life's hopes, dreams, or ambitions. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth in 240 B.C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s ... atosthenes What's taking you so long?
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Burlyman wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:01 am Too many insults.
Burlyman wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:10 am It wasn’t you with the insults, Isaac.
Then just tell me. These other haters are not men of science like you and me. Flat moon science. The earth is for sure a tetrahedron, only because the moon is flat.
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Flatlander wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:35 am
Burlyman wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:17 am Flatlander where are the results of your laser test, since you think you’re so smart? Stephen Hawking did a fake one just before he died.
Where is yours? I don't give a flying ★■◆● what shape the earth is. It has no bearing on my life's hopes, dreams, or ambitions. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth in 240 B.C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s ... atosthenes What's taking you so long?
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Burlyman wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:22 am
Flatlander wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:35 am
Burlyman wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:17 am Flatlander where are the results of your laser test, since you think you’re so smart? Stephen Hawking did a fake one just before he died.
Where is yours? I don't give a flying ★■◆● what shape the earth is. It has no bearing on my life's hopes, dreams, or ambitions. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth in 240 B.C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s ... atosthenes What's taking you so long?
If you don't care then don't say anything.
I care Burlybuh. Why do you care more about the people that hate you than the people who care?
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Because Neo can't keep his " big mouth shut". :wink: Didn't think anyone wouldn't notice your ninja edit Mr. Neo sir.
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Would you care to lay out the specifics of what kind of "laser test" you have in mind? The exact equipment and procedure that you wish to see used.
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TigerRaptor wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:20 pm Because Neo can't keep his " big mouth shut". :wink: Didn't think anyone wouldn't notice your ninja edit Mr. Neo sir.
Or your "ninja" vexing. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. lol :mrgreen: That wasn't a very nice thing I said but he deserves it.
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Burlyman wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:14 am
TigerRaptor wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:20 pm Because Neo can't keep his " big mouth shut". :wink: Didn't think anyone wouldn't notice your ninja edit Mr. Neo sir.
Or your "ninja" vexing. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. lol :mrgreen: That wasn't a very nice thing I said but he deserves it.
So basically I have to say insults for you to reply to my claims. Because I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
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I don't believe in a "flat moon." So I can't reply. :P

I did something interesting today. I calculated the gravitational force between the earth and the sun using Newton's universal gravitation and it didn't add up. :/ There's something you all can try. :)
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Burlyman wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:52 pm So I can't reply. :P
So this was a lie:
Burlyman wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:24 pm I can easily debunk everything you all said here

You see, I did't think you were a liar before. If you're willing to lie about this, you probably lie about anything, no?
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Burlyman wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:52 pm I did something interesting today. I calculated the gravitational force between the earth and the sun using Newton's universal gravitation and it didn't add up. :/ There's something you all can try. :)
...didn't add up to what exactly? Do you have any idea what the number you obtained actually means?
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All that proves is that you can't do math. But we all knew that already.
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LOL I'm good at math but I made a mistake.
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Top Gun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:53 pm
Burlyman wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:52 pm I did something interesting today. I calculated the gravitational force between the earth and the sun using Newton's universal gravitation and it didn't add up. :/ There's something you all can try. :)
...didn't add up to what exactly? Do you have any idea what the number you obtained actually means?
I don't either but he can:

Chatgpt, can you compare the the gravitational force between the earth and the sun using Newton's universal gravitation?
GPT4 wrote: Sure! Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation states that the gravitational force (F) between two objects is directly proportional to the product of their masses (m1 and m2), and inversely proportional to the square of the distance (r) between them. The formula is:

F = G * (m1 * m2) / r²

Where:
- F is the gravitational force between the two objects,
- G is the gravitational constant, which is 6.67430 × 10^-11 N(m/kg)²,
- m1 and m2 are the masses of the two objects, and
- r is the distance between the centers of the masses of the two objects.

Now, let's plug in the values for the Earth and the Sun:

- Mass of Earth, m1 = 5.972 x 10^24 kg,
- Mass of Sun, m2 = 1.989 x 10^30 kg,
- Average distance between Earth and Sun, r ≈ 149.6 million kilometers = 149.6 x 10^6 x 10^3 m (we have to convert kilometers to meters).

Plug these values into the formula:

F = 6.67430 × 10^-11 * (5.972 x 10^24 * 1.989 x 10^30) / (149.6 x 10^6 x 10^3)²
≈ 3.52 x 10^22 N

This means that the gravitational force between the Earth and the Sun is approximately 3.52 x 10^22 newtons. This force is mutual, meaning that the Earth pulls on the Sun with the same force that the Sun pulls on the Earth. However, since the Sun is much more massive, it doesn't accelerate nearly as much as the Earth does. This is why the Earth orbits the Sun and not the other way around.
Would you say that "adds up"?
GPT4 wrote: Let's check if the calculation is consistent with the numbers provided:

G = 6.67430 × 10^-11 N(m/kg)²
m1 (Earth) = 5.972 × 10^24 kg
m2 (Sun) = 1.989 × 10^30 kg
r = 149.6 × 10^6 x 10^3 m (converted from kilometers to meters)

Plug these values into the formula:

F = 6.67430 × 10^-11 * (5.972 × 10^24 * 1.989 × 10^30) / (149.6 × 10^6 × 10^3)²
≈ 6.67430 × 10^-11 * (1.188 × 10^55) / (2.239 × 10^22)
≈ 6.67430 × 10^-11 * 5.309 × 10^32
≈ 3.54 x 10^22 N

This result is very close to the previously mentioned value of 3.52 x 10^22 N. The small difference can be attributed to rounding errors in intermediate steps.


So yes, the calculation adds up and is consistent with Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. It provides a reasonable estimate of the gravitational force between the Earth and the Sun.
Emphasis: REASONABLE ESTIMATE


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Chatgpt, is the moon flat?
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Why are you using a different account now?
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Darth Wang wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:29 am Why are you using a different account now?
Part of the dbb lore is that Neo, Burlyman, and I forget the 3rd one are all the same guy
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Samus, Neo, Burlyman and I think Callisto was another one back in the day.
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The force from the "sun" on the "moon" adds up, I just made a silly mistake at first. The problem with it though is they don't exist that way.

hmm... the laser test might be too expensive because you need a boat to shine the laser on. I forgot about that. heh. Like I said Stephen Hawking did a fake one, but he made the test fail by having the person with the laser on the shore angle it up a few degrees without saying so. You could tell that the water wasn't curving toward the horizon.
TigerRaptor wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:16 pm Samus, Neo, Burlyman and I think Callisto was another one back in the day.
lol... I wasn't Callisto. Bubbalou just kept saying that. I prefer the name Neo but was stuck using Burlyman for a while. Krom helped me recover my Neo account.
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Fun fact: HAM radio operators often bounce signals off the moon to communicate with each other. Using the assumption that the moon is 382500 km away from Earth, just like science says it is, and it works. It's called EME transmission, look it up. Is every HAM radio operator also in on the conspiracy?
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Darth Wang wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:15 pm Is every HAM radio operator also in on the conspiracy?
It's a well known fact that ham is flat.
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